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Finally the real grover milkbottle tuners at “non usa import price” They are replacing a set of tuners from 1977. The are smooth and much more fine TuneAbel at 18: 1 than the Old tuners 12.1 ratio. But they are are little bit more thich . I had to use a little bit of sandpaper, to make Them fit. I Will only give 4 stars because they are using phillips screews in-sted of the vintage correct screews with one groove.
Bought these as replacements for the original tuners that were on my 1970’s Japanese “Les Paul”. I wanted to give it it more of a Kossof/Page vibe so went for the Grover “milk bottles” with nickel finish. A bit too shiny at first but a bit of scotcbrite and then fuming in vinegar got them suitably dull. Good price at Thomann and when combined with other items to get free shipping to the UK makes them good value.